Ganguly is authentic because it is approved by Wikepedia. It is said that God before engaging in any action shows us our true colors and deeds. Mahadev ke mahatwa ke bare mein aap na hi bole to achha hai. In the battle of Kurukshetra, it was mostly because of Krishna that Arjun was able to survive it and win. So could Arjun lift Gandeev because of boon , so also Drupad’s bow was presented with a rider only Arjun could string. The great and divine weapons no longer manifested While Radheya looked on, the valiant one used the vayavya weapon and dispelled all the clouds. Arguments and debates lead only to ego issues and nothing else. Observers SONu and Nilesh also feel the arguments by Surya are insufficient to Prove Karna succeeded in Swayamvar. 3. C. Also on the dhwaja (flag) of Arjun’s chariot existed Mahaveer Hanumanji , and for your kind info, Hanumanji was Mahadev’s avtar. Which Vijay bow? Fernsehsendung. . LOL. Duryodhan made him a king against the rule of land . battle presented itself, I got to know about your greatness, the truth about your Karna fell to insult & injustice everytime yet he had never moved from the path of dharm. a kanya means one who has attained 8 years. Final War ( Overall Feats of Karna vs Arjun and his unfair killing ) Karna (With Vijaya bow + curses) >> Arjuna (With Gandiva bow, Nandighosh chariot of Agni, Boons of Durga and Shiva, protection of Shiva, Hanuman and Krishna, invincible armour of Brahma, inexhaustible quiver, Shalya's demotivational speech) A. Since he was not suspected as KANIN , he ,karma got best education from Parshuram [GOD] himself better than Arjun . Rules which were disobeyed during even Drona’s command. Karna was not given a chance to even hold the bow … as karna stood up and went towards the bow .. krishna indicated to draupadi to say no …… i am sure if karna would have given a chance he would have strung and hit the the mark …………………. second is the universal dharma the supreme dharma . So Karna had an edge over Arjun here but Karna's curse meant that he would forget the mantra used to invoke it in dire circumstances. Kounteya then released another weapon, beloved of the fire god, towards Karna. ( Log Out /  Karna used all his strength to serve his friend Duryodhan, without even one selfish thought for himself. also karna was given those little shoulder over arjun to tribute the great person karna was. However being an observer in this debate my observation tells me that both C. Rajagopalachari and Swami Vivekananda are highly 2 edged weapons against Karna and can well be used to glorify him to a certain extent. In I believe Karna did fail but as C. Rajagopalachari says Love for God. many weapons and some escaped from his memory. … 4) Duryodhana himself narrated the unfair death of Karna while lifting wheel of chariot. 16.488 Personen sprechen darüber. armed with wooden sticks, he forgot his all celestical weapons due to his I applaud Shri Surya also for a good debate. All of them approved the words of Duryodhana and accepted that Karna, Bhishma, Drona and Bhurishrava were killed through adharma. See more of ARJUN vs KARNA on Facebook. Surya acuses Chiraan of being like mullahs and evangelist who resort to Arabic or Hebrew when cornered. Nowhere in the main epic it is said that Karna spared Arjun’s life due to the sunset as shown in the TV serial. Duryodhana went to Salya and with folded hands made his request. following Question. misconception - draupadi's swayamwar competition w... madhwacharya and mahabharata tatparya nirnaya !! karna vs arjun performance analysis from kurukshet... exposing the fake reason of karna of bow destructi... bori critical edition !! Both, Karna and Arjuna had the standard less powerful astras such as Agneya, Varuna, Parajanya, etc. In this clip from episode 252 of Mahabharat, Arjun finally manages to get better of his arch-rival in the Battle of Kurukshetra. and how he had beheld Shankara. such great is the epic mahabharta . oder. Watch this mythology clip from Mahabharat streaming online, only on Hotstar. In the great battle, thousands, millions, billions and crores of extremely sharp arrows issued from it. However, George M. Williams considers another pupil, Karna, to have been as capable as Arjuna. 5. I will make an observation – Jury Amit had a doubt that if Karna could string VIJAY a bow given by Parshuram then how could he not string relatively lesser bow . That is not why the Mahabharata was written, so that thousands of years later, people would argue on its characters. – On which Shri Chiraan replied that Though Vijay is superior bow , it is a boon from Parshuram and Karna could lift it with boon . If he fights now, forever he will be seen as a man who did not keep his word. What one can do? Hundred sons Had he told he was suta he would have got education as suta is higher caste and given education in gurukul . Then why cant INDRA himself told KARNA that he is INDRA & not BRAHMIN before taking kavaach and kundal from him as he is GOD?PANDVAS themselves lie when they were on ANGYATVAS? Suta is born to bramhin mother Kshatriya Father . Karna always suffered defeat at the hands of Arjun whenever they took on each other, with or without Krishna. On 13th day, he was invincible due to his impenetrable armor. Closeness with Mahadev Karna Karna was a great warrior, in many ways greater than Arjuna. Arjun and Karna were great warriors.But I strongly believe that Karna was stronger than Arjuna.There are a lot of misconceptions about the Virat war. These guys dont have any knowledge. 1) After hearing golden words of Duryodhana, all gods adopted the side of Duryodhana. Mahabharat-The Truth. F) KARNA WAS THE ONLY WARRIOR WHO CAUSES BLASTING OF ARJUN'S CHARIOT WHERE PITAMAH BHISHMA MEET WITH FAILURE. heroic flight, Distance-1400 Km, Speed-200 Km/Hr]The text clearly says that Read the last two lines! What do we learn from the greatest epic mahabharta . this is what gives the reason for arjun vs karna battle . his comments at draupadi vastraharan site and his role in abhimanu vadh are drastic errors he commited though he himself regreted them later but due to this only bhisma doesn’t allow him to fight under his flag as he was a asudh yodha ( someone who doesn’t respect women . ) Mr Chiraan, you have disabled commenting on the debate thread. at the end I found out ; NETI, NETI, truth is fare beond than, these religious stories. listen to something that is eternal and secret. chariot was whirled around in the encounter.Because. Secondly come up with something technical and contextual for victory in debates.Usually, where the content knowledge ends for debators like you, blasphemy starts. He was walking before me and at whatever direction he was going, our enemies were dying in that direction. so common sense suggests Karna strung the bow. Do u think this is OK in todays world that somebody from lower cast cant get higher education,I think this is injustice. In fect to realise the suprim, you have to go through by these belif, than mentally fight for the authenticity of all aspects of relision, before finding the eternal truth and freedom, even in our sanatan dharma. Ähnliche Seiten. bhima vs karna,again ;) this thread is divided into three parts - part 1)propaganda of arjun's opinion on bhima - karna duels on 14th day. So why is that Karna supporters criticise God over Karna and turn a blind eye to Karna`s Sin’s? To unfold the truth who was the greatest archer/warrior of mahabharata and who gets sympathy votes under the name of 3 supreme gods. Karna's death in Mahabharat is the end of a tragic journey of an extremely talented and brave soul who is thrown into challenging, humiliating and … managed to surpass the curse of lord parshurama. When it came to celestial weapons, Karna received the Brahmastra aka Brahmashira from lord Parashuram. Mahabharat Episode 44: Arjuna vs Karna – A Battle between Archrivals . themselves and he was ashamed, Arjuna had many weapons but he didn’t knew techniques to shoot During the Virat battle Karna came face to face with Arjun with his “kavach & kundal” intact, yet he was mauled and had to flee for his life. lORD WANTED TO SHOW THAT IN FIGHT OF GOOD AND EVIL HE TAKES THE SIDE OF GOOD .To be honest we should not compare arjuna and karna cause both are quite different . Public Figure. HUMAN WHO FORGOT PASHUPATASTRA AND AGAIN BEGGED FOR IT EVEN LORD SHIVA GOT Debator Draupadi said nothing but stood holding on to the skirts of the deer-skin in which Arjuna was clad. Adhiratha’s son was brave. exposing the much over glorified amogh shakti ! These are a few examples, if you want to know more about Mahadev’s mahatwa in mahabharat I suggest you to read mahabharat once again. We now try to draw aparallel between Arjuna and Karna in order to find out who was thebetter warrior out of the two. anti-curse of parshurama also helped Karna to overcome curse –No warrior will karna vs satyaki part 2 !! Sanjaya said that Arjuna's son clad in golden armor was even superior to Arjuna! And even in sticking to one’s principles, Karna appeared more Both had a deep connection to the Kauravas. On seeing these wonderful sights, they, with Vasudeva at the forefront, were ashamed and honoured Duryodhana. However, the darkness spelt all around, and Karna had to stop. Krishna, Balarama and others sought to appease the who had created the confusion. karna had all the five qualities of pandavas he had not gone after his words like yudhidtr,he had strenght as like bheem and he even defeated jarasandh 2 times by fighting with bare hand,he had archery skills superior to arjun as said by parasuram "only mahadev can defeat you as long as you have gandiv in your hand". Karna had been born to Kunti prior to her marriage with Pandu, blessed with Surya but then abandoned to be raised by a low-caste family. I also belive to get a proper spiritual knowledge in a proper way, one should go to guru. Not Now. It was pathetic Arjuna - The Mahanayak. be equal to Karna in battle. At the end of Drona parva Arjun says to Vyasdev “mahamuni, when I was fighting at the field of kurukshetra I saw man resembling agni and with a trishool in his hand. will use my mental powers to hurl the brahmastra at Partha. Surya has been all along debating upon relying on Kisari Mohan Ganguly Translation of Mahabharata. Book. He was also illiterate Karn broke abhimanyu’s bow from behind, yes, but he did it on SENAPATI dronacharya’s command. Hundreds and hundreds of sons. When that standard was uprooted, fame, dharma, victory and everything that was dear to the hearts of the Kurus also fell down. That is the very essence of the Arjuna Karna relationship. When arjuna attacked standard of Karna's chariot, duryodhana was disappointed. Hearing these words, lord Krishna got angry and began to abused, arjuna for wasting his valuable knowledge of bhagvad gita. karna had all the five qualities of pandavas he had not gone after his words like yudhidtr,he had strenght as like bheem and he even defeated jarasandh 2 times by fighting with bare hand,he had archery skills superior to arjun as LOL, ________________________________________________________________________________, Mental power of Karna – Surya opens debate with the birth of Karna Indra takes Karna's kavacha, and in return Karna gets Indra's shakti astra. He was thus secretly a half-brother of Arjuna and contrasted with him by being of low status. 2) (Arjuna unable to withstand Karna and Bhishma, Dhristdyumn unable to withstand Drona, Satyaki unable to withstand bhurishrava hence unfair means were adopted to kill those four atirathi warriors. The whole of Mahabharat is recited by SUTA , the son of lomaharshan . When Karna’s chariot wheel got stuck Arjun had initially kept down his weapons but it was Karna who during Krishna’s admonishing him suddenly aimed a weapon at Arjun which hit his arm and seriously injured him. person having poor memory power to gain any knowledge. how come two authentic translation give different translation of same verse. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Surya refuses to be drawn into debate on what is authentic and what is unauthentic ? But karna was defeated many times (twice by arjun and once by chitrasen and drupad ). KARNA VS ARJUNA To unfold the truth who was the greatest archer/warrior of mahabharata and who gets sympathy votes under the name of 3 supreme gods. So SUta is not a racial abuse , and pseudo sympathy for Karna as being abused as SUTA does not stand logically as he never was abused. but karna did some mistakes that put spot over his greatness . 2) As per Duryodhana, Pandavas could never won war only if they fought fairly with Karna, Bhishma and Drona. Its Lord Shiva and Brahma who are known to give boons quickly hence are usually worshipped by asuras. Bad mouthing will only make you dispensable. Sonu NILESH. this is what gives the reason for arjun vs karna battle . Also see that arjun haD submitted himself to god while karna hadn’t . Sri Parshuram was a hard task master and being an incarnation of Vishnu is rather cautious about giving boons. This version of ADI parva Mahabharata says Karna did not string the bow and failed in Swayamvar and there was no abuse from Draupadi. It is just for those people, who follow the tradition and retuals, or they do not have time or desire to dig into the root. Surya Drona rejected Karna on grounds of caste ? 3) While releasing wheel of his chariot, karna released varunastra. injustice archers like arjuna were unable to shoot it with great efficiency that why his And if you do put your love and trust in him, he will make wonders for you. when one’s personal and universal dharma are contrasting at the same time and he is in confussion then according to vedas one should follow the universal dharma . Kunti was six years old when she receive Karna. It was the epic scene where arjuna hang down his head in shame and began to cry for his cowardice, C) APPROVAL OF GOLDEN WORDS OF DURYODHANA AND GODS BY LORD KRISHNA, On seeing this, Krishna spoke these words, in a voice that rumbled like clouds and drums. Popularity Now let us come to the main point . Karna-The HERO of … TV Show. He would not have been abused racially Karna Rukmi was also a student of Parshurama. The top of the vehicle, which had before been burnt by Drona and KARNA with their celestial weapons, quickly blazed forth to ashes," TV Show. He would have married Draupadi Incidentally, i read a quote in TOI recently, “Do not argue with a fool, onlookers would not be able to differentiate”. He saw the death of his best friend right in front of his eyes. was the ONLY warrior who was mentally strong enough to hurl Brahmastra without Hail Maharatha Karna Karna Vadhaparva ,Chapter 1155(5), Bori Ce Dhritarastra to Sanjaya, Dhritarashtra said, “O Sanjaya! part 3)exposing fake defeats of bhima which blorndies gave.-----part 1)propaganda of arjun's opinion on bhima - karna … this is what gives the reason for arjun vs karna battle . http://thekarna.wordpress.com Karna was the better man and warrior. However, I am incapable of He got better education is known from the fact that He exhibited all that Arjun exhibited during tournament. about the supreme Brahman, Arjuna himself confessed that he was not intelligent thus it proves that last but not least arjuna admitted, his foolishness. ! Based On Original Authentic Versions Of Ved Vyass Mahabharat - 1) BORI - Critical Edition Of Mahabharata In Sanskrit (1966) 2) KMG - First English Translation Of Mahabharata (1894) Wednesday, 10 January 2018. He also refuses to be drawn into deciding what is evil? Change ). Because he did not love the Lord more than he loved himself. in todays era this not seen , slowly even after mensturation begins women would not develop complete physical development , in future. ONLY warrior in entire history who surpass curse using his mind power, B) KARNA WAS THE ONLY Karna had rites of SUta so he remained a suta. Another time, Karna’s impending victory was missed as the sun went down and Karna being a true warrior, obeyed the rules set by Bhishma and lowered his bow. Yes, Drona was also responsible but his weapons were neutralized by Arjun in mid Create New Account. i like daanveer karn more than yodha karna . It is said that Brahmastra Karna is my favorite and there willl be no own equal to him ever . { in Chiraan’s voice }, astrology destiny planets navagrahas jyotish. Surya : what’s wrong in zeal ? Chiraan offers Surya to raise questions ! HUMAN WHO FORGOT BHAGVAD GITA KNOWLEDGE  "Hear in brief, O son of Pandu! karna vs satyaki !! He would have occupied the throne As the legend progresses, these classmates become enemies, with Karna and the Kauravas allying against Arjuna and his four brothers. Indraputra Arjuna. However, his loyalty was so blind that he would even follow his friend when he was doing something totally wrong, selfish and harmful to others. 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